tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596260.post544464164669392870..comments2023-10-23T12:25:03.006-04:00Comments on Ramblin' with Roger: LINKORAMA: The Confederacy? WTFRoger Owen Greenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05298172138307632062noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596260.post-69909986308216017402010-04-14T18:55:22.269-04:002010-04-14T18:55:22.269-04:00Having just come back from Overseas, I was writing...Having just come back from Overseas, I was writing a blog entry on just this subject when a combination of Blogger stubbornness and human error vaporized my entire article! Perhaps I will try re-writing it - it's a bit different a point of view. But bottom line: "Confederacy" = "traitors," B.S. it was a "noble cause."Uthaclenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02065010777540677353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596260.post-84079018990868704192010-04-14T09:33:17.986-04:002010-04-14T09:33:17.986-04:00Greg- As was alluded to in the early part of the m...Greg- As was alluded to in the early part of the movie Invictus, South Afdrica was expected to totally blow up after black rule was in place. The fact that it did not was due to Mandela's leadership and the "truth and reconciliation" panels.<br /><br />Are American blacks better off than South African blacks? Of course. But 1) American blacks have been supposedly free since 1865, SA blacks since 1994, and US is richer than SA. So it's a matter of where we should be in America vs. where we are. <br /><br />And to the specific point: if we could figure out how to really talk about race in America, we ALL (black, white and everyone else) would be better for it. It's not a "black" issue; it's an American issue.Roger Owen Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05298172138307632062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12596260.post-87063050811665532122010-04-14T09:14:10.601-04:002010-04-14T09:14:10.601-04:00As I've said before, I'm certainly not qua...As I've said before, I'm certainly not qualified to speak about this subject, but when someone compares us unfavorably to South Africa and Rwanda, I have to wonder what reality they're living in. Those two countries are making progress, from what I know, but in South Africa, for instance, the black population is still far, FAR worse off than it is here. And that's a country where they're a vast majority!<br /><br />Also, did you watch the ESPN movie about Allen Iverson that aired last night? It was fairly interesting - it was about his trial in 1993 when he was in high school and the subsequent human rights kerfuffle. This is one reason why it's difficult to have a discussion about race in America - Iverson was obviously guilty of something (probably nothing as serious as what they convicted him for), but he wouldn't have been treated so harshly if he hadn't been black. However, his athletic skills also helped him get out of jail much sooner. Douglas Wilder, the governor of Virginia, commuted his sentence. Is this a case of the black man looking out for one of his own, like so many whites do? It was a very complex case, and as long as people simply yell and scream (on both sides) when something like it comes up, there will be no progress.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481137891542684401noreply@blogger.com