Hard To Argue When They Think God Said So

Those of us in what I guess one would call the "liberal theological tradition" are sometimes criticized because we don't seem to speak out against the religious right.

Well, two points:
1. We do, but maybe we just don't use a megaphone.
2. It's just difficult to argue with some people.

The service at my church this past Sunday, on More Light Sunday, featured the Gay Men's Choir and used Acts 10 as the backdrop. Acts 10 talks about the conversion of the Gentiles but it also gets into a large sheet and permission to eat food that was formerly thought as unclean. I think the pivotal verses are these: {34] Then Peter opened his mouth and said: In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. [35] But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him. This is, to use the political vernacular, a "big tent" God.

Some not particularly religious friend sent me a link to Answers in Genesis for my "amusement and disabusement". These are the folks who believe that people lived at the same time as the dinosaurs and have -um- created the Creation Museum in Petersburg, KY.

I was interested in the answer to the question Cain’s Wife—Who Was She? Frankly, it was because of the snarky video Arthur at AmeriNZ linked to called Betty Bowers Explains Traditional Marriage. Well, lo and behold, AiG pretty much comes up with the same answer: incest. After chastising William Jennings Bryan, "the prosecutor who stood for the Christian faith", for failing "to answer the question about Cain’s wife posed by the ACLU lawyer Clarence Darrow" in the 1925 Scopes trial (!), the writer cites "the Jewish historian Josephus" who wrote, 'The number of Adam’s children, as says the old tradition, was thirty-three sons and twenty-three daughters.'" Non-Biblical information to make a Biblical "proof".

Cain was in the first generation of children ever born. He, as well as his brothers and sisters, would have received virtually no imperfect genes from Adam or Eve, since the effects of sin and the Curse would have been minimal to start with. In that situation, brother and sister could have married...without any potential to produce deformed offspring.

Now I can argue with these folks until I'm purple and it's HIGHLY unlikely to change anything.

In any case, I find them harmless compared to the New York Family Policy Council. One of their members wrote a letter to the editor of the local paper in Albany. A church friend went to the website and found:
And he called his ten servants, . . . Occupy* till I come. Luke 19:13 KJV
Welcome to the New York Family Policy Council web site. Remember, of His Kingdom there will be no end.
*oc cu py vt. [ME occupien; from OFr. ocuper; Lat. occupare, to seize : ob- (intensive) + capere, to take.] 1. To seize possession of and maintain control over by force.
In case you've missed the point, Ellen Kolb, Executive Director/President makes it clear:
Jesus’ command for us to occupy is mind boggling. We are commanded to take over the running of the government and subjugate it to the Laws of God’s Kingdom. We are to infuse the Kingdom into the culture. Our voice is the voice that is to supersede all others in the political arena. To accomplish this we must activate our voice – let it be heard on earth via phone calls, email, letters, letters to the editor, public meetings and in heaven via prayer and declarations. We must activate our prayer lives, spending time each day with the Lord. With prayer as our foundation, we can occupy. If it were not possible, Jesus would not have commanded us to do it. Therefore, let’s awake and become the Church Militant. Let’s put on the full armor of God. Let’s pray as never before. Let’s change the state and national laws so they line up with God’s Word. Let’s restore the Judeo-Christian foundation that our country was founded upon. Let’s not just take up space; let’s OCCUPY.

This is so antithetical to everything I believe, it's maddening. And possibly treasonous. I suspect these folks are even less likely to accept the notion of an inclusive God, a God of love rather than a God of subjugation, than the AiG people.

And speaking of antithetical:
Valley station church to hold gun service

By Peter Smith
psmith@courier-journal.com (Louisville, KY)
A Valley Station Road church is sponsoring an "Open Carry Church Service" in late June, encouraging people to wear unloaded guns in their holsters, enter a raffle to win a free handgun, hear patriotic music and listen to talks by operators of gun stores and firing ranges.
Pastor Ken Pagano of New Bethel Church said the first-time event is "basically trying to think a little bit outside the box" to promote "responsible gun ownership and 2nd Amendment rights."
The event, slated for late Saturday afternoon, June 27, is being promoted with online posters, including one using a red font resembling splattered blood with the words: "Open Carry Church Service." Full story here

But NOT, apparently, packing heat for the "occupation". To be fair, one pastor, commenting on this story, said the event "would nauseate Jesus." Indeed, the linkage of church and state I believe to be not only contrary to the Constitution but, more importantly, to Christianity. I don't believe it's the role of the church to promote Second Amendment rights or patriotism. I believe it's the role of the church to treat people like brothers and sisters; you know, the feed the hungry stuff.

So consider this one Christian voice crying out in the wilderness, for all the good it will do.

ROG